tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1437663792486224589.post6066860180471595458..comments2023-12-23T07:21:22.143+11:00Comments on Plantastic and Designeriffic News: The Shaky Return of Swanston StreetDLAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10231673678673078232noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1437663792486224589.post-67241332883784348772011-12-01T00:23:07.809+11:002011-12-01T00:23:07.809+11:00I don't know if they've painted it since M...I don't know if they've painted it since Monday, or I just didn't notice - but there are now little bicycle symbols painted between the zebra stripes.<br /><br />I'm still not sure what they're trying to communicate with those stripes instead of a solid green strip or something, though.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11963716974666842075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1437663792486224589.post-69407391124667116902011-11-30T17:42:09.244+11:002011-11-30T17:42:09.244+11:00what's needed is some yellow paint and warning...what's needed is some yellow paint and warning signs. Or even better some form of god awful tactile paving to warn against any potential conflict whilst simultaneously desecrating our public realm. The odd conflict should be part of everyday urban life and am sure cyclists will quickly learn to slow down/stop when a tram has its doors open and likewise peds will realise the platform is only for when trams stop.Maxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1437663792486224589.post-62764780143794630222011-11-29T22:46:05.501+11:002011-11-29T22:46:05.501+11:00Sorry to say this but cyclists should slow down. I...Sorry to say this but cyclists should slow down. It isn't a bike fwy and we always had to stop behind a tram with open doors. But designing pavements that look like ped spaces but are bike lanes when trams aren't around? Pure stupidity! Particularly given the fact Elizabeth Russell and Exhibition streets are such shonky routes so swanston street was the safest option.Emilynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1437663792486224589.post-31536318733363078242011-11-29T12:29:09.350+11:002011-11-29T12:29:09.350+11:00Agreed, except that I don't think there was ev...Agreed, except that I don't think there was every a viable solution that would safely let that number of cyclists get through that number of pedestrians at reasonable speed. There's a similar situation on the St Kilda foreshore, where a bike path goes through prime cafe territory. The solution there was to ditch the bike path entirely, and just make a very wide area of pavement. So cyclists have to slow down a bit, and negotiate their way through the pedestrians - it's a compromise that actually works ok in practice.<br /><br />The real WTFs in the Swanston St plan are the rather narrow width of the bike path, the odd (and unique) zebra striping, and the lack of signage. Oh, and the incredibly long construction time.<br /><br />Speaking for myself as a cyclist, I avoid Swanston St completely. I much prefer Exhibition, which connects smoothly with the Yarra Trail down through the southeastern suburbs. It's steep, and there is traffic, but almost no pedestrians, and the cars are usually pretty well behaved.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11963716974666842075noreply@blogger.com